Legislature(1999 - 2000)

05/02/2000 10:55 AM Senate JUD

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          SB 314-LIMIT NAMES ON GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DONLEY  explained  that  SB 314  will  amend  the  Alaska                                                              
statutes  to   adopt  a  different   system  to   determine  which                                                              
candidates will make  it to the general election  ballot.  The top                                                              
two vote getters  in the primary election for  the governor's race                                                              
would appear  on the general election  ballot.  Likewise,  the top                                                              
two  vote getters  for  the office  of lieutenant  governor  would                                                              
appear with them, as required by  the Constitution, on the general                                                              
election  ballot.  SB  314 addresses  the issue  of access  to the                                                              
general  election ballot  by  saying that  while  a candidate  can                                                              
access the primary ballot via a petition,  the only names that can                                                              
appear  on  the general  election  ballot  are  the top  two  vote                                                              
getters in the primary.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. JIM BALDWIN,  Assistant Attorney General, stated  SB 314 would                                                              
have  the effect  of  turning the  race of  governor  into a  non-                                                              
partisan  election.   If two  Republicans, for  example, were  the                                                              
high  vote getters  in the  primary  election, they  would be  the                                                              
candidates  for the  general  election.   He  questioned how  this                                                              
approach  will  square  with  the pending  decision  of  the  U.S.                                                              
Supreme  Court regarding  the open  primary,  specifically if  the                                                              
court rules  against the open primary.   He asked  whether another                                                              
process  would have  to  be instituted  by  the political  parties                                                              
leading up to what is now the primary  for the office of governor,                                                              
such as a pre-nomination.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ASSISTANT  ATTORNEY  GENERAL  BALDWIN   said  the  second  problem                                                              
created by  SB 314 is  that its provisions  would be placed  in AS                                                              
15.25, a  set of statutes designed  to provide for  the nomination                                                              
of candidates.  No change, however,  will be made to AS 15.25.110,                                                              
which gives one of those candidates  the power to withdraw from an                                                              
election, and it  gives the power to the party  committee, through                                                              
the party nomination process, to  replace that candidate.  Without                                                              
a  change to  that  statutory  scheme,  a candidate  who  received                                                              
26,000 votes in  the primary election could become  the person who                                                              
is nominated at the general election.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ASSISTANT  ATTORNEY   GENERAL  BALDWIN  noted   another  potential                                                              
problem is  third party  access to  the ballot.  At one  time, Joe                                                              
Vogler,  an  Alaska Independent  Party  representative,  took  the                                                              
Department  of  Law to  task  over  the  question of  third  party                                                              
access.   The statute governing that  access had a very  high bar.                                                              
He expressed concern  that SB 314 will prevent  third parties from                                                              
accessing the general election ballot  which will expose the State                                                              
to  litigation.   The  AIP  fought hard  in  the Vogler  case  and                                                              
succeeded in establishing  a third party's right to  access on the                                                              
general ballot.   The Alaska courts have been  inclined to protect                                                              
third party rights to access.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 510                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. GAIL  FENUMIAI, Elections  Specialist, Division  of Elections,                                                              
said after  a cursory  review of the  legislation she  has several                                                              
questions.    She asked  whether  Section  1 will  allow  write-in                                                              
candidates  to have  equal access  to  the ballot  in the  general                                                              
election.  She expressed concern  that SB 314 might disenfranchise                                                              
a write-in candidate's  ability to run a successful  campaign.  It                                                              
appears that Section 1 eliminates  the possibility that a write-in                                                              
candidate could run for governor or lieutenant governor.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   DONLEY  responded   that  Section   1  eliminates   that                                                              
possibility only for the general election.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. FENUMIAI explained  that write-in candidates  for governor and                                                              
lieutenant  governor  are  only  allowed  to run  in  the  general                                                              
election.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. FENUMIAI  noted that  Section 2  of SB  314, which deals  with                                                              
placing  nominees on  the general  election ballot  for all  other                                                              
offices, reads, "the  name of the candidate receiving  the highest                                                              
number of votes  for an office by  a political party."   She asked                                                              
if  that means  each  political party  so  that  the highest  vote                                                              
getter  in each  party for  each  office advances  to the  general                                                              
election ballot.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY replied  if Ms. Fenumiai is asking  whether Section                                                              
2  maintains the  status quo  for  all candidates  other than  the                                                              
governor and lieutenant governor, the answer is yes.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. FENUMIAI  asked if only one  candidate runs for the  office of                                                              
lieutenant governor whether that  candidate would run with both of                                                              
the gubernatorial candidates if they were all in the same party.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY  explained the  one candidate  would run  with both                                                              
but it would  be an easy option  to go to the second  highest vote                                                              
getter for lieutenant governor.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FENUMIAI  asked what  would  occur  if  there was  no  second                                                              
candidate  from that  party and  whether the  second highest  vote                                                              
getter  for the  gubernatorial  race would  appear  on the  ballot                                                              
alone.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DONLEY  said  under existing  statute  that  party  could                                                              
nominate a candidate to fill the gap.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. FENUMIAI  asked if  Section 4 applies  the same provisions  of                                                              
Section 3 to no party candidates, basically petition candidates.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY agreed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELLIS  pointed out  that  representatives  of the  Alaska                                                              
Republican Party were  present.  He asked Chairman  Taylor whether                                                              
he invited representatives  from the Republican  Moderate Party or                                                              
the AIP to attend the meeting.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR replied he  invited no  one.   He added  that Mr.                                                              
Mark  Chryson  of  the  AIP  and  Mr.  Sykes  were  listening  via                                                              
teleconference.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 810                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARK  CHRYSON, Alaska  Independent Party,  stated the  AIP has                                                              
several concerns  about SB 314.   As Mr. Baldwin said,  Mr. Vogler                                                              
took the State  of Alaska to court  and won.  Alaska  is unique in                                                              
that it has six political parties.   The definition of a political                                                              
party requires  it to have 6,000  registered voters or  to receive                                                              
three  percent of  the vote  in the  gubernatorial  election.   He                                                              
asked  if Senator  Donley's  intent is  to  eliminate all  parties                                                              
except the Republican and Democratic parties.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  replied SB 314 was  introduced at the  request of                                                              
the Senate Majority  so that the legislature could  take a look at                                                              
other options.   He noted the  provision pertaining to  a majority                                                              
of the votes  for election of  the governor is having  a difficult                                                              
time on the House side.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHRYSON  said in  effect, if  SB 314  passes, the  legislature                                                              
will   be  outlawing  any parties  other  than  the Republican  or                                                              
Democratic Parties.  It will eliminate  ballot access.  He said he                                                              
is not opposed to runoff elections  or the instant runoff that has                                                              
been proposed,  and believes that  would solve the  problems cited                                                              
earlier.   He stated  this  bill is being  heard  too late in  the                                                              
session  to  allow  for  comments  from  around  the  State.    He                                                              
suggested  that  the  committee  kill  the bill.    He  noted  the                                                              
Libertarian Party also believes the bill should be shelved.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DEE   DEE  BENNIS,  representing   the  Bristol   Bay  Native                                                              
Association,  stated  SB  314  could  negatively  impact  minority                                                              
voters.    She believes  that  proposing  a  major change  to  the                                                              
election  laws during  the last  week of  the legislative  session                                                              
without  adequate  review  is  rash   and  irresponsible.    Rural                                                              
Alaskans will oppose SB 314 until  the full light of public review                                                              
is allowed.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MICHAEL  JUMP,  representing   himself,  echoed  Ms.  Bennis'                                                              
comments.   He opposes  SB 314 because  it will negatively  impact                                                              
the ability  of minority voters to  have a choice for  the offices                                                              
of  governor and  lieutenant  governor  in the  general  election.                                                              
Rural Alaska needs  to have the greatest influence  that it can in                                                              
choosing  its  governor  and  lieutenant  governor.   He  is  also                                                              
concerned about  the ability of third  party candidates to  get on                                                              
the general election ballot.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.   APRIL  FERGUSON,   representing  the   Bristol  Bay   Native                                                              
Corporation,  stated opposition  to SB 314,  primarily because  of                                                              
the process it is undergoing.  She  received the sponsor statement                                                              
two minutes  ago and,  although it  is part of  her job  to review                                                              
legislation,  she cannot  respond to legislation  she only  became                                                              
aware of 30  minutes ago.  She  believes the public was  given the                                                              
absolute  minimum   meeting  notice   possible.    SB   314  makes                                                              
significant changes to Alaska's election  process.  Most villagers                                                              
do not  have e-mail or access  to BASIS therefore  representatives                                                              
of smaller  communities  will not  have the chance  to comment  on                                                              
this  legislation.   Passing legislation  at a  dead run  excludes                                                              
Native people from the political  process.  BBNC wants its members                                                              
to have the opportunity to participate  and comment.  SB 314 would                                                              
have  prevented  a  very  popular  governor,  Wally  Hickel,  from                                                              
participating in office.   She expressed  concern that Mr. Baldwin                                                              
and Ms.  Fenumiai only  received a copy  of this legislation  last                                                              
night  and  have  not  had  adequate time  to  analyze  it.    She                                                              
respectfully asked committee members to "kill" the bill.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. JIM  SYKES, Executive Director  of the Alaska  Public Interest                                                              
Research Group (AKPIRG)  and a representative of  the Green Party,                                                              
stated he  was unaware  of this legislation  until minutes  before                                                              
the  hearing.    He  totally  agrees  with  those  testifying  who                                                              
criticized this  process.  This  subject affects all  Alaskans and                                                              
deserves wide and deep public consideration  and debate.  For that                                                              
reason alone, the bill should not  go forward.  SB 314 smacks of a                                                              
shortcut  to  the Louisiana  system  which  has  one of  the  most                                                              
politically  corrupt  histories  in  the entire  system  of  state                                                              
elections.    Alaskans  want  more  open  government,  not  closed                                                              
government.   A number of  U.S. court decisions,  regarding fouled                                                              
access,  generally provide  more access  to the general  election,                                                              
not less.  SB 314 restricts the general  election ballot in a very                                                              
discriminatory and unfair way for  small parties.  He fails to see                                                              
the logic of  why the bill has  the highest vote getters  of every                                                              
political party for  congressional seats placed on  the ballot but                                                              
it restricts the candidates for governor  and lieutenant governor.                                                              
He  fails  to  see  why  that  distinction  is  made  because  the                                                              
congressional  offices are  equally important  to the governor  in                                                              
terms of a statewide vote.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SYKES said  if one goes back to the court  decisions regarding                                                              
primary elections,  one will  see that a  primary election  is the                                                              
process  by  which  candidates  are   nominated  for  the  general                                                              
election.    In  Alaska, political  parties  are  prohibited  from                                                              
nominating  their own candidates  at the  convention.   The Alaska                                                              
Court  has  upheld   that  parties  are  only   able  to  nominate                                                              
candidates  for political  parties via the  open blanket  primary.                                                              
To assume that  a candidate could be nominated and  then be unable                                                              
to  run   in  the  general   election  is   a  violation   of  the                                                              
constitutional  right of  freedom  of political  association.   He                                                              
questioned how this  legislation could be brought  forward when it                                                              
is such a clear violation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SYKES  stated if a  political party  is required to  get three                                                              
percent  of the  vote  at  a general  election  but  is unable  to                                                              
participate  in that general  election when  its candidate  is not                                                              
one of the two highest vote getters,  that creates a political fix                                                              
that would  toss this  system on its  ear in a  second.   The only                                                              
situation in  which a fair  election could  occur under SB  314 is                                                              
with the  instant runoff vote.   He noted  he cannot speak  for or                                                              
against that  as a representative  of AKPIRG,  so he will  end his                                                              
testimony for  that organization  and testify as  a representative                                                              
of the Green Party.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SYKES indicated  the Green  Party  introduced instant  runoff                                                              
voting to the  House State Affairs  Committee in 1991 as  a way of                                                              
building majority, recognizing that  candidates were being elected                                                              
with fewer and  fewer votes.  That bill is again  being considered                                                              
and heard,  which is more  than can  be said for  SB 314.   If the                                                              
Senate Majority's intent is to build  a majority, it needs to take                                                              
another look  at instant  runoff voting in  which the  primary and                                                              
general elections  could be rolled into one, eliminating  the need                                                              
for the runoff.   The fiscal  note attached to the  instant runoff                                                              
election bill was  quite high because it contains  a one-time cost                                                              
to educate the voters.   He stated he does not see  how SB 314 can                                                              
possibly  go forward,  considering  any of  the  federal or  state                                                              
court  decisions.   He  repeated that  he opposes  the  bill as  a                                                              
representative of AKPIRG, as a representative  of the Green Party,                                                              
and as a citizen of Alaska.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1486                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS  commented that  he believes  that many more  people                                                              
would want to testify  on SB 314 if they knew about  it but due to                                                              
the late date of the session, they will be unable to.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY said he appreciates  the testimony given today.  He                                                              
stated he  believes the  committee needs to  work on the  issue of                                                              
what  will  happen  if only  one  candidate  runs  for  lieutenant                                                              
governor.   He noted that  will only be a  problem if the  top two                                                              
vote  getters  in  the  primary  are from  the  same  party.    He                                                              
suggested three solutions.   First, place the  second highest vote                                                              
getter from  that party  with the second  highest vote  getter for                                                              
governor; second, place  the top vote getter with  both; or third,                                                              
allow the party to place a candidate  on the ballot.  He also said                                                              
he thinks  the concern  raised about  the three  percent of  votes                                                              
requirement  for parties  is valid  and should  be addressed.   In                                                              
addition, he suggested  that legal research of  case law regarding                                                              
write-in votes on a general election should be conducted.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR agreed  and stated that several aspects  of SB 314                                                              
need further refinement.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY  suggested that the  committee continue to  work on                                                              
this legislation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS asked if this legislation  will be considered during                                                              
the interim and stated he will not  support it if it passes out of                                                              
committee at this time.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR stated  that serious questions  have been  raised                                                              
about  SB  314  and  he wants  the  opportunity  to  look  at  the                                                              
legislation further.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1685                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[During the remainder of the meeting,  the committee discussed the                                                              
articles of impeachment regarding  various judges. Upon request, a                                                              
verbatim transcript was prepared.]                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yesterday we received  referral of 30 Articles of                                                              
Impeachment  on various  judges  across  the state  -  all of  the                                                              
Supreme  Court and  most  of the  Superior  Court  judges in  both                                                              
Fairbanks  and   Anchorage  -  the   third  and   fourth  judicial                                                              
districts.   They appear  to be  technical in  nature but  I can't                                                              
make a  cursory review  of that  upon which  anyone would  want to                                                              
base anything and that would only  be my opinion as concerns those                                                              
allegations also.   With  the limited amount  of time left  in the                                                              
session,  I sincerely  doubt  that the  committee  has either  the                                                              
resources  or  the  energy  to  move  forward  at  this  point  in                                                              
investigating those  matters or holding hearings  on those matters                                                              
and,  in  fact,  I think  there's  an  inherent  conflict  if  the                                                              
committee  or  its  staff  were  to  be  doing  that  type  of  an                                                              
investigation in  that we also are  the ones that would  then have                                                              
to sit  in judgment not  only in this  committee, but also  on the                                                              
floor of  any such bill  that came up.   And that's why  those who                                                              
have  gone through  the process  before,  Congress included,  just                                                              
most recently the  Judiciary Committee in the House  with Mr. Hyde                                                              
- the committee  to whom the  special prosecutor reported.   We're                                                              
also talking  about a significant  expenditure of  state resources                                                              
if this  matter is to  be fully and  thoroughly resolved.   Though                                                              
it's going  to be my  recommendation, at  least to the  committee,                                                              
that we respond  back to the President with at  least a memorandum                                                              
indicating those  concerns and asking  for her reconsideration  of                                                              
the referral  or for further direction  from the leadership  as to                                                              
the  expenditure of  funds and  resources  on this  matter.   This                                                              
committee will cease  existence for all intents  and purposes upon                                                              
the sine die motion of this legislative session.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS:   Mr. Chairman, would  you be willing  to circulate                                                              
that memo to committee members in draft form?                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR:   Oh, absolutely.   I'm  still working on  it and                                                              
will be happy to do that.  If there  are comments by the committee                                                              
members, I'd sure appreciate hearing those too.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HALFORD:  What is the next step for the advocates?                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR:   There really is  no next step.  It  all depends                                                              
upon the action  taken by the Senate President.   They are allowed                                                              
to lodge  those as  citizens with  the Senate.   It  is up  to the                                                              
President, then, to decide what referrals  and what actions should                                                              
be taken on them.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HALFORD:  Precedent?                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR:  None that I'm aware  of.  This is somewhat of an                                                              
historic  application of  the law.   There  isn't much  precedent.                                                              
The only precedent  we really have around here  is the impeachment                                                              
of Governor  Sheffield, or the  attempted impeachment  of Governor                                                              
Sheffield,  and  that  was  also  a  very  expensive  and  energy-                                                              
consuming  process.  But if, in fact,  our Constitution is to have                                                              
any meaning, and  these laws are to have any  meaning, the citizen                                                              
does  have the  right to  file such  an application  and then  the                                                              
discretion  of  the  Chair  within the  Senate,  I  believe,  then                                                              
controls the actions  that would be taken from  that point forward                                                              
and then of course  the discretion or discernment  of the body and                                                              
the various  committees that  would approach it.   I think  we can                                                              
very quickly find ourselves in a  process that may consume a great                                                              
deal  of  time  and  energy  and I  just  wanted  to  raise  those                                                              
concerns.  I think there's some inherent  conflict concerns.  When                                                              
you start  having a special prosecutor  within the state  who is a                                                              
state  attorney   serving  under   the  very  same   people  being                                                              
investigated -  I think there are  lots of inherent  conflicts and                                                              
problems within this process that  may involve reaching to outside                                                              
counsel  - people  outside  of the  state.   It  could  be a  very                                                              
involved process  or it could be  merely a matter of  technical or                                                              
procedural matters that  could be more easily addressed.   But, in                                                              
either  instance,  we're  looking   at  a  significant  volume  of                                                              
material that  has been provided  to us and  we need to  make some                                                              
decision about  how we're going to address  it.  So I  will try to                                                              
circulate a memo to the members and  get back to the Chair on this                                                              
before the conclusion of the session.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HALFORD:  With some kind of staff analysis on this?                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR:   Yes,  and I think  that may  help us  more than                                                              
anything else.  There's already been  staff analysis done by legal                                                              
counsel  for the  Majority  but I  would like  to  have a  further                                                              
review of that by Leg [Legislative]  Council so that we'd all have                                                              
an opportunity ....                                                                                                             
SENATOR HALFORD:  Yes, I'd like to know what their response is.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR:    And  with  that,   I  appreciate  everybody's                                                              
attendance today.   We have not moved the bill,  Mr. Sykes, you'll                                                              
be happy about that as will Mr. Chryson, I'm sure.  Thank you all                                                               
for your attendance and your patience .  We're adjourned.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[END OF MEETING.]                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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